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Inside the Hollywood Guarantee Building

December 3, 2009 by  
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Aaron Saxton explains what goes on inside the building that houses the L. Ron Hubbard Life Exhibition and the offices of middle management of Scientology.    This building is the focus of many protests and contains the L.A. headquarters of the Office of Special Affairs, Scientology’s dirty tricks department.

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12 Responses to “Inside the Hollywood Guarantee Building”
  1. Brian says:

    Response to the first video… I’m an x-scientologist. I left for my own reasons… Aaron evidently left for his.

    What I don’t get is these video’s of frustration against the church of scientology could be applied to ALL religions.

    Just think of this logically.

    Aaron says, that he basically didn’t like the fact that a special apartment was made for L Ron Hubbard on a special secret floor of the Gurauntee building in Hollywood. He doesn’t like it, because:
    A. L Ron Hubbard is dead
    B. It’s a waste of money
    C. Staff members are living in poor conditions (i.e. couldn’t the money go to them?)
    D. People are told that the money they take from the public scientologists goes to orgs, when it really goes to these frills.

    This is presented here to somehow show the wrongness of Scientology in reference to normal, rational people in normal rational religions. He doesn’t say that, but that’s obviously the hidden premise of his videos, of this site, of most of the detractors.

    Thanks Aaron. But what you just described is what people have been complaining about in most religions for YEARS. TBN (The Christian Channel) has had people who were “raising money” to supposedly go to “God’s work” or “to help the needy.” Instead it comes out they were buying new cars, gold plated dog dishes for their pets… etc. Some went to jail – others didn’t. Look at the fancy Catholic church thas gold plated items, and poor people sleeping in the gutter outside. Even in Buddhism, you have the Gold Buddha statue (incidently Aaron, Buddha is no longer physically with us either – along with Jesus, and many others) which costs tens of thousands just for the statue… while the monks live humble lives and in most contries beg for food.

    Listen – you’re barking up a tree called “all religion” and nailing it to only one branch called “Scientology.”

    But we can go beyond religion. Don’t we as a society support and pay for the most insane nonense, while other members of society starve? Of course we do. How many CEO’s can swing company jets, limo’s – while workers are paid peanuts. Maybe not to the degree of religion – but the concept is the same… Waste going to the one direction, while there’s a need in the other that isn’t getting anything.

    This isn’t just about Scientology – it’s a commentary on life. Again, is there an argument here against Scientology that can’t be applied to other religions?

    In this particular argument, it’s flawed. it’s a complaint that is too broad and too inclusive to secular and religious organizations around the world (not just Scientology.)

  2. acute says:

    To Brian——–SCIENTOLOGY IS A CULT.

  3. Number 2 says:

    I think Brian knows as much about religion as Tom Cruise “knows” about psychiatry.

  4. MW says:

    Brian,

    I just wanted to respond to some of your statements.

    “But what you just described is what people have been complaining about in most religions for YEARS. TBN (The Christian Channel) has had people who were “raising money” to supposedly go to “God’s work” or “to help the needy.” Instead it comes out they were buying new cars, gold plated dog dishes for their pets… etc. Some went to jail – others didn’t”

    - Yes, these actions are also terrible and these people should be bought to justice as well. Are you suggesting that because others organizations are corrupt that focusing on bringing one group to justice is just a pipe dream? Would you not stop a local rapist in your local area if you knew that rape was prolific worldwide?

    “Look at the fancy Catholic church thas gold plated items, and poor people sleeping in the gutter outside. Even in Buddhism, you have the Gold Buddha statue (incidently Aaron, Buddha is no longer physically with us either – along with Jesus, and many others) which costs tens of thousands just for the statue… while the monks live humble lives and in most contries beg for food”

    - Yes, other groups do the same as Scientology. They can be legimately questioned as well. This isn’t an argument against Aaron position. I think you are misrepresenting Buddhists monks’ lifestyle to present Buddhism negatively.

    “Listen – you’re barking up a tree called “all religion” and nailing it to only one branch called “Scientology.”

    -Ah, thanks for getting to the crux of your real message. I’m going to thank you for making this statement. You believe Scientology is just like any mainstream religion. Anonymous please take note.

    “But we can go beyond religion. Don’t we as a society support and pay for the most insane nonense, while other members of society starve? Of course we do. How many CEO’s can swing company jets, limo’s – while workers are paid peanuts. Maybe not to the degree of religion – but the concept is the same… Waste going to the one direction, while there’s a need in the other that isn’t getting anything”

    - Indeed. This sentiment may be true. However, how does this relate to what Aaron said?

    “This isn’t just about Scientology – it’s a commentary on life. Again, is there an argument here against Scientology that can’t be applied to other religions?”

    - Aarons commentary is about Scientology. It could be applied to other religions but you are taking what was said into another context.

    “In this particular argument, it’s flawed. it’s a complaint that is too broad and too inclusive to secular and religious organizations around the world (not just Scientology.)”

    - I question your ‘argument’ and think it’s very flawed. Please feel free to respond.

  5. Mr. Xenu says:

    All religions are houses of servitude and slavery…

  6. Dr. Pickles says:

    Brian, one of the main differences between $cientology and other religions is that if a representative of a particular religion is accused or caught in some form of criminal/immoral activity, most of the time they will own up to it or the church will acknowledge it. $cientology has denial built right into it. If someone accuses the church or a member of the church of wrongdoing, it is compelled by Hubbard’s teachings to attack the “attacker”, invalidate whatever they say and bend over backwards to find out something about the accuser that can destroy their credibility, which is relatively easy to do as nobody’s perfect (‘cept for Ron, natch) and we all hide things. This is like saying “Newton was a pedophile, so throw away that physics book”. If you pay attention to your own post and try to be objective, you’ll see that you are doing the exact same thing, just scaled back a bit.

    I am curious as to what led you to leave the church. Was it the constant hounding for all your available monies? Maybe they wanted you to disconnect from someone? Perhaps it was the fact that you didn’t get what was promised you at the beginning? Please let us know. Regardless of what you may think of Anonymous or people that you see on similar boards, we are interested in your story and Anon tends to support people that speak out…

  7. Rockyj says:

    I love this guy for being so open about the inner workings of the cult of Scientology and his courage to leave & share. Brian, yes all religions have their dark side and people use their so-called beliefs to take advantage of others. I am Native American and the abuses my people (my own mother and grandmother endured) in the government and religious Boarding School’s are beyond your conception. However, Scientology’s core is evil and was set-up to brain wash, fool and use people for their LRH & select few to gain power and control. I tend to believe most “REAL” religions core beliefs are intended for the good of people, its the sick ones that twist and adopt these beliefs in order to gain power and control. It appears you’re either still in Scientology or still sucked into all the BS they told you over the years.

  8. Suzanne says:

    Scientology is not a religion, it is a cult!!! According to the Bible, James 1:27… the highest form of religion is to help widows and orphaned children. Scientology does neither!!!!!!

  9. Joker says:

    Brian, grow a brain!

  10. Marcabian Candidate says:

    Judaism = FAIL!
    Christianity = FAIL!
    Gnosticism = FAIL!
    Islam = FAIL!
    Hinduism = FAIL!
    Voodoo = FAIL!
    Mormonism = FAIL!
    Heaven’s Gate = FAIL!
    Raelians = FAIL!

    Reality FTW!

  11. LRH'sPsychiatrist says:

    Hello All!

    After reading the comments here and elsewhere I feel the need to point out a few points of interest. First, is that I believe it’s a mistake to attack Brian as he was the victim in the entire scenario. And, yes, while it may be argued that perhaps he should have known better, he should have exercised is critical thinking a little better, many folks, of not most, who get lured into cults, or im my opinion, most religions, are not lacking in intelligence. Intelligence has little to do with it. It has more to do with one’s emotional state of being, which as most everyone knows can cause one to leave logic and better judgment suspended at times. Look at love for a simple example. It appears that Brain’s comments compariing Scientology to other religions has struck a few nerves. However, I don’t think he is wrong for the most part. No doubt there are differences between mainstream religions and Scientology, though in the opinion of some only by a matter of degree. Arguments could be made that, unlike Scientology, mainstream religions don’t trap their followers, don’t try and separate them from their families, etc…which are the most obvious differences, as well as defining features of what a cult is, at least as it’s currently interpreted, but that mainstream religions have simply done a better job in brainwashing their followers and the proof is exactly because they don’t even need to trap them. The willingly subject themselves to the intellectual/emotion confines of the ‘faith’. For those who perceive all religion as basically irrationally-based belief systems which occur, perhaps naturally, as a way for people to find some sort of comfort in this apparently infinite universe, with all the uncertainty it seems to offer, that there was a talking snake in the garden, or that Xenu was floating around or there being h-bombs dropped in volcanos is really not all that different. They’re fairy tales. Perhaps useful fairy tales, but fairy tales all the same. And, personally, I don’t really care of one believes that a stick of butter created the universe as long as it doesn’t infinge upon the rights of someone else. Unfortunately, it seems that this may be unavoidable from time to time. So, just to cap this off, I think that rather than attacking Brian, we should try and find out as much as we can about his experience and try and learn from it. And it’s good not to forget that ANY cult, religious group, or anything else couldn’t exist for a day if it did not fulfill the need for something. It also couldn’t exist for a day if it were too odd. So, when the anti-Scientologists attack Scientologists, and I’d consider myself quite anti-Scientologist, it’s good to keep in mind that many of these folks, at least when they’re in the stage they are in many of the Youtube videos, have not yet been exposed to the extreme irrationalities of Xenu, etc…nor have they heard the schizophrenic ramblings of Hubbard himself (And I’m 100% certain I could demonstrate that he was suffering from schizophrenia), but are rather receiving some basic and simple-minded self-help techniques which, to them, DO seem to work. And I don’t doubt for a minute that these folks really DO feel improvements taking place(in the beginning at least), just as it’s really unfair to blame all Germans for believing Hitler was great given that for many folks his policies were, in fact, helping them. Herein lies the problem, i.e., how to spot such unsavory things in advance. Many would say it’s not possible as many of these unsavory folks weren’t even unsavory, nor did they have unsavory intentions from the outset. This itself also contributes to the seduction. It’s much more seductive if the leader actually believes what he’s saying. Those whom lie from the outset are MUCH easier to spot, and usually unravel much quicker. Personally, I find the best way is to simply not join any group at all which is trying to promise much of anything. If group X wishes to gather money to help starving children, great, just help gather money after making sure you know exactly where it’s going and how it’s being used. If there is ANY resistance to your inquiry, just leave. No one has the answers, and so we should not look to others for answers, including my own statements here. DIY!

  12. Knight of Anonymous says:

    Christianity, especially Catholocism (probably spelled wrong), teaches its members to have compassion and mercy for those who oppress you. Scientology teaches the opposite. Brian, the reason Catholic churces have gold plated items is because of wealty and/or royal benifactors. Most of what is found in a Catholic church has been donated by these benifactors. Scientology charges obscene amounts of money for services in real religions that are free. Some of these same items you speak of are over hundreds of years old. They are maintained by those who have worked at these parishes over the many years. Scientology has celebrities, not royal or old money benifactors. Scientology makes less sense than the real religions. The Immortal Artists Da Vinci, Caravaggio, Donetello, Micheal Angelo, Moztart,etc. have been Christian and/or Catholic. Scientology has no one I would consider of Immortal fame. In fact, most members of Scientolgy could be considered infamous. The Immortal Baseball great, Babe Ruth was Catholic. Despite a few bad apples, the Catholic church has produced some very great humanitarians and humanitarian organizations as has the other real religions. Scientology has mostly bad apples. That is the difference.

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