Kirstie Alley on the Today Show
March 17, 2010 by XENU TV
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Kirstie was not at all happy that her new weight loss program is being connected to Scientology. Roger Friedman of the Hollywood Reporter is one of the people interviewed in the pre-taped segment before Kirstie’s appearance.
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So the address in clearwater is a scientologist lawyer who is a “jew” what does she mean by that? There is a scientology connection then, and didnt she donate 5 million dollars to scientology?
http://humantrafficking.change.org/blog/view/church_of_scientology_accused_of_slave_labor_camps_forced_abortions
I feel sorry for her. Looking for love in all the wrong places…
If she ever found love she’d probably eat it.
I think the biggest problem with Kristie Alley is she does have serious mental issues. But issues she has to see a psychiatrist to treat. Which, of course, scientologists wouldnt allow. You saw in the clip the people around her are telling her she doesnt really look like she does in the pictures. But the “diet program” is obviously a scientology program. It may not be funded directly by them but probably through an outfit hired by scientology. I refuse to believe the fact that her accountant is from Clearwater is merely a coincidence.
Yeah, sure!
Considering all her OT powers one can only conclude that she is fat intentionally – probably to help the planet.
How else could an LRH-tec skilled operating thetan conduct such an unstable way of living! The tec is working and it’s helping all the people soooo much!
We all can see the proof of that!
And as the proof is in the pudding, Kirstie probably had had a lot of it – at least at some time in her life …
And all the connections from her subscription (!) based ripoff scheme that tries to make money from ineffective bogus nutrition products to corporate Scientology are just incidental a so not true …. really absolutely no similarities in purpose, method, crookedness, and ethical conduct whatsoever!
Really! A big Scientology style ‘word of honor’ to that!
Final remark:
Is it actually far fetched to call her a FAT LIAR?
She looks like she one biscuit away from 300. Was next to her one time in LA and I swear she was sweating gravey.
What a complete Pig.
I found the question interesting, when Vieira asks Kirstie about how if Scientology — with the OT’s control over MEST — helped her overcome her cocaine addiction, why not her overeating?
First she had to be the Jenny Craig shill, lucrative I’m sure, and then gained it all back PLUS thirty pounds. Now she has to start her own commercial diet, and she’s enthusiastic about it just as she was when shilling for Jenny Craig.
I do not believe her explanation makes any sense that Scientology helped her with cocaine “because it is illegal” and that we are told butter and high calorie intake is good for us.
Murder is illegal too and Rex Fowler, high level OT, did that after having publicly proclaimed his success with anger issues because of Scientology. Likewise, Quentin Hubbard killed himself at 22. They both had LOTS of Scientology.
There’s a lot more fat people in the world, and drug addicts, than people who murder others, or kill themselves. So, I think there are questions to be asked about how much control Scientology gives a person over anything.
Granted, food is something we must eat anyway, but outrageously, Kirstie is pushing her diet program on people for her profit, as if it is the one way, or a great idea to spend $1700/year for this first ever “organic” program, that really hasn’t been extensively tested.
As if the problem in other diets has been the “toxins.” Maybe Vieira should have asked her if this diet also raises IQ.
I never thought I’d find myself defending my position with something from a Scientology book, but their book on Purif (one of the few Scilon books I found readable, although it was simplified, with a lot of common sense and some outright hokum), it says that diet is individual, and what works for one person might not work for another.
These claims about Kirstie’s magick “organic” vitamins suppressing appetite so you aren’t hungry…well, I think it would be better to wait and see several thousand people people try it, and keep the weight off for at least three years.
Kirstie is turning this into a stunt, with herself and her naive admirers. Shouldn’t she be PAYING people to do this with her?
Kirstie has openly admitted — quite honestly — that the reason she lost weight with Jenny Craig, was the tremendous amount of pressure for her as spokesperson. So, that is her secret for losing weight, although she hasn’t mastered keeping it off, much like the people who do great on THE BIGGEST LOSER and then get fat again at home a year later.
So, how is that people are going to find it easy, just to watch Kirstie on her show, and try to lose weight along with her. They won’t have the pressure on them, of a large audience. Is cheering Kirstie on, going to be enough to help them lose weight.
Won’t some of these people feel cheated. Sure Kirstie might feel the pressure not to balloon up to 250 after she’s lost the weight, but she’s raking in the profits and feeling the pressure. How is that going to help others?
This is a Hubbardian narcissism. The world revolves around me. Follow me and you will have dominion over the world, and fat.
It seems like a con, like Scientology itself, but without the control.
I asked this diet/OT question to Geir Isene. He said something similar to Kirstie. Food is something we need to survive and it can be an addiction. (No explanation.)
I think it is more complicated, and especially the genetic component. I’ve never had to go on a diet to lose weight in my whole life, and it isn’t because I’m virtuous or have some great power of control. When I was younger, I used to calorie count to gain weight!
It may be true that some people can keep weight off eating fiber to feel full, or finding a food, or the right kind of exercise that doesn’t make them ravenous, or something that suppresses their appetite, but each person should try different things, keeping it simple, and low cost. The focus should be finding out what works for them.
Maybe it is frequent small meals. Maybe something relatively inexpensive like Weight Watchers, or Jenny Craig. Or free, by reading a book in the library.
About the association with Scientology…It’ll be interesting to see if this is negative or positive for Scientology. I can’t figure out what it is now. May just bring more attention to Kirstie’s diet.
I think it is better than the Katie pregnant-or-trying news though. That I think HELPS Scientology.
I think a lot of people like the crazy in Kirstie, because they identify with it. I think it is fine to love Kirstie for her nuttiness or her big mouth, or sympathize with her yo-yo weight struggles, or downfall from incredible beauty to fat actress, but I think it is a mistake to actually do the things she pushes, whether it be a diet, or Scientology.
The best line is by Vieira when she says something about “…a lot people think anything connected to Scientology is quackery…” (Ten years ago, would she have said that?)
I guess it is the conspiracy theorist in me, but could this be Scientology’s way of trying to test out and inch into the billion dollar diet business?
Scientology wouldn’t want to be associated with it, in this testing time, in case if flops or even backfires, like Kirstie gets sick or something, or people want their money back.
After all, through the years Scientology claims they have proof it raises IQ and does everything else…cures blindness, prolongs life, keeps you healthy etc.
I picture Kristie flipping out at 300 lbs. a few years from now, but claiming that she’ll live forever because she’s a Scilon and that while her diet couldn’t keep the weight off, it’s helping her feel better.
Didn’t Hubbard claim he might live for a thousand years at one point? (It’s the nicotinic acid.)
well I love fat chicks, so I wouldnt kick her out of bed for eating cookies, however, their vitamin program is horseshit. The purif I.C sat me down before my purif and told me that the intake recommendations on vitamins is a government conspiracy to ensure we don’t get the required amount, so that we stay unhealthy and need to attend the medicos. Therefore, we should all exceed the recommended amount to stay ahead of the “SPs” Looking back, i dont know how I didnt die laughing at him
Kirstie’s on Larry King tonight. poon those phone lines!
Did you notice how she described how “poperazzi don’t like having their picture taken, especially the license plates on their cars” sounds a little like the tactics the Co$ use?
Hmm…interesting.
astrid wrote: “[Viera said] “…a lot people think anything connected to Scientology is quackery…” (Ten years ago, would she have said that?)
The Today show is one cold place for a Scientologist to hawk a movie/Tv show/product
Thanks for the well thought out commentary, Astrid. (Thanks for all the other well thought out commentaries too.)
May I teach thee, me being the Shakespearian fool that I am (typo): There once was a lass who should have known not to be such a fat ass. She would, if she could, but being L. Ron’s ape has made lose any common sense that she had. I tell you all this because I think she is quite mad.
There should be a her between made and lose. Sorry about that.
Hey, mbm:
Thanks for the link to a great article. Here’s one for you:
Rev Dr. David Millikan interviews Vicki Dunstan (Pres. CO$ Australia) and Virginia Stewart “Senior Manager” (Minister) of CO$. Sunday, 03/14/2010.
http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/-/watch/18613947
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/nelson-mandela-way-happiness-64104/
correction: Kirstie Alley is on Larry King TONIGHT, Betty White was on last night and provided lulz
I’ve been thinking more about the Kirstie diet. It’s such an obvious gimmick designed to make Kirstie money. It’s like a reality show stunt that has no basis in the real world of weight loss success.
It has elements of Scientology thinking, besides the magick vitamins. Kirstie is postulating that she will lose weight, and that her followers will lose weight, and keep it off, and be healthy.
Isn’t this how Scientology works?
You fake-it-until-you-make-it. What do you make for yourself? Success, happiness, more confidence, better “communication” skills, a sense of real purpose, and health. The problem with weight loss is that you can’t FAKE it, like you can fake super powers, or that you are saving the planet, by sucking dupes into Scientology.
Kirstie isn’t going to be able to make people thin and stay thin, any more than Scientology is saving the planet. Weight shows! It can be measured on a simple and accurate device, the scale.
Unless Kirstie plans to fly her adherents to the moon for weight checks and set up special mirrors, it is going to be hard to POSTULATE them into getting thin, or getting them to fake it.
The positive thinking, placebo effect, fake-it-’till-u-make-it is the good part of Scientology. The part that helps SOME people. Thinking positively and constantly keeping busy, especially for people who are doing drugs or getting into self destructive behavior when given no direction.
However, there are so many other things that are dangerous in Scientology or don’t work for people, like being drained of one’s life’s savings or being indentured to work in the Scientology money-sucking machine. Or feeling like a failure, at fault for “the tech” not working 100% of the time.
There’s a difference between people getting into Scientology, and people trying Kirstie’s weight loss.
Weight loss isn’t easy, or contingent on one simple diet, or product like “magick” vitamins or Slim Fast. And people know this. It’s not a secret, like Scientology is a secret for many people.
Who can forget when Oprah was hawking Slim Fast so religiously. People have learned from a few decades of watching Oprah that even money and lots of incentive (like appearing on TV regularly) can’t provide a permanent easy solution to staying thin and changing dietary habits.
You can’t zany yourself into permanent weight loss or dietary change, like you can zany yourself into being a celebrity.
I assume the success of many diet programs has to do with finding partners and a supportive group of people, real people, more than just Kirstie’s website.
She’s stuck in an incident where folks like me cared about anything she did or say. Another actress who has the newest regime to lose weight but with no scientific evidence, only anecdotal. Sounds like $cientology to me.
Lose the weight first Kirstie and THEN come out and try to sell it to everyone.
p.s. We won’t be buying!
I always liked Kirstie, and I still do in spite of her addiction to Scientology. But I also feel very sorry for her! How can she reconcile the outrageous claims of clear and OT powers with her own obviously human condition? I often wonder if she ever has any doubts. Even if she does, and wakes up… then she would have to face, with brutal honesty, all those years and millions of dollars worth of investing in a SCAM!
What is sad is that there are so many good weight loss and nutrition programs out there that are also much cheaper–but, since they are not run by celebrities, they don’t get advertised on the Today show. If anyone really wants info on one, I can refer a good nutrition expert. But do NOT spend $1300 on Kirstie’s vitamins, please…
I agree with you ‘Jim’… 1300 dollars is a lot of moolah for something that can be had for virtually free. 1300 probably sounds ‘free’ to Kirstie after her million$ donated to ScientoloSCAM!
It has been said: Initiate the wise into wisdom and fools into Scientology.
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/03/18/tom-cruise-katie-holmes-hot-tub-premiere/
Tom and Katie… together for the cameras only @ the premiere for ‘Hot Tub Time Machine’ (produced by United Artists… which I’m hearing is going to be swallowed up by Time-Warner along w/ MGM). This reeks of desperate famewhoring, because by summer these two will be done.
I seriously think anyone should be forewarned about the Terms and Conditions as well as Privacy Policy of Kirstie Alley’s diet membership and website.
She and her company takes Zero Responsibility (which she keeps saying is so important to her). Customers (who sign up) have Zero Rights. Also clause for changing terms at any time, and they don’t even have to inform you! No refunds (you have to sign up for a year’s worth of stuff). Those are just a few of the highlights.
As to Privacy, as I read it, this means Kirstie could get her sci front groups in on the action (as third parties, lol) and get access to your information, including IP address, home address, and more, you name it. Those third party clauses in privacy policies can be tricky to understand. And remember, she and her company cannot be blamed or sued for anything.
Expect to see major footbullets and ripoff reports starting in about 6 months.
CNN quoted Kirstie as saying her organic diet program was formulated by “the greatest scientific minds on the planet.” Shades of Hubbard communing with the 20,000 greatest minds in the Universe?
I wish she’d go all the way, and just say she’s talking to L. Ron on his spaceship, about weight loss and nicotine addiction.
I found this tidbit from her wiki interesting:
Alley is the only cast member of the hit TV show Cheers not to guest-star on its offshoot Frasier because of its positive portrayal of psychiatrist Dr. Frasier Crane, played by her former cast mate Kelsey Grammer.
Astrid,
I saw that on Kirstie’s Wiki too. It’s really sad because psychotherapy would probably help her discover the issues that cause her difficulties with weight.
I honestly can’t say it’s a bad weight loss program due to cost. Nutrisystem (http://www.nutrisystem.com/jsps_hmr/home/index.jsp?_requestid=583865) can be JUST as expensive. That it’s a ripoff, probably, however, it’s not only that’s it’s allegedly based on Hubbard’s tech.
Maybe most of Hubbard’s tech was a ripoff, but I can’t honestly say ALL of it is. Kirstie’s program comes to $$33 a week based on $1,700 with 52 weeks.
From Nutrisystem’s chat line: Thank you for choosing Nutrisystem. A specialist will be with you shortly.
You are now chatting with Sean.
Sean: Hello. I am a Nutrisystem product specialist who specializes in helping customers online. How may I assist you today?
You: How much is your basic men’s program for a year?
Sean: The cost of the Men’s Basic Program with Auto-Delivery is $329.95/month + you get FREE shipping.
They are $76 a month…
http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2010/03/19/on-hiatus/#comments
BREAKING: Roger Friedman of the Hollywood Reporter “On Hiatus”. Did Kirstie send the OSA lawyers on him? any way to contact him?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-18/the-scientology-diet/
Daily Beast’s article on Kirstie’s Cal-Mag, w/ Claire Headley appearance confirming that Kirstie has Scilons on her scam staff.
It seems all Scientology teaches is how to Flim/Flam people. They should change their name to something more appropriate like Scammotology.
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/le-soleil-narconon-expose-march-21-2010-updated-64262/
Canadian newspaper Le Soleil exposes Narconon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvbfzZJLe2U&feature=player_embedded
Aussie PM Kevin Rudd tells morning program Sunrise (basically their version of the Today Show) that there’s a possibility of criminal charges for the cult
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXvrB2xIcA&feature=player_embedded
Nick Xenophon on the Aussie version of Meet the Press tells about the senate inquiry
hope all these help
Being that I was secretly LRH’s psychiatrist for many years, and having dealt with him on his own weight issues, not to mention knowing that he actually HAS returned from the dead as he said he would, he still owed me money, I’m going to break the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement right now and just tell everyone that Kristie IS LRH in drag. Yes, yes, it was my idea for him to try and hide his identity this way as part of his therapy. I was just sort of experimenting with a new Jungian Cross-dressing for Heavy Charlatan therapy when I was drunk one night, and, well, now you know. I thought it would be obvious that LRH in simply the abbreviation for Lady’s Really Heavy.
Poor Kristy, she hath not the common sense that most people hath. She needs to dump Scientology in the trash and see an addiction specialist and a nutritionist. She needs to read my “Ode” to Scientolgy. She doth need to grow a brain. She needs to ask Tom Cruise to give her a refund. Kristy, you need to take Scientology’s Tech and put it in the garbage where it belongs. It’ll give you some exercise. Then get a real religion and some psychiatric treatment. You must unlearn what you have learned (I’m quoting Yoda here).
Of the troika of at the top of celebrity Scientology, Cruise, Travolta and Alley, Kirstie holds the most potential to be critical of the cult, if she were to ever wake up. Biggest mouth. Says whatever she’s thinking.
Problem is, Haggis didn’t wake up even after his wife experienced DISCONNECTION from her parents. It took even more than that, for him to not dismiss every written criticism of Scientology as unfounded “entheta.”
And Kirstie views Scientology getting off drugs as saving her life, just as Geir Isene views overcoming his shyness as drastically changing his life. Neither will be convinced they may have overcome these problems in different ways.
And so with this new diet of Kirstie’s, and the flak, she is probably believing HARDER in Scientology, being strengthened in her conviction for the cult. She will not see the similarities between her diet program and the vitamins in the Purif, which Scientology claims that, among other things, can “raise IQ.”
So, while Kirstie may want to defend her “religion” more vigorously by attacking the critics as bigots, most of the public will make an association between the quackery, promises and lack of credibility in this diet — it’s organic(!) — with the same in Kirstie’s sci fi religion.
Narcissism plays a large role in Scientology, and since actors tend to be more self-absorbed than many people, and also very defensive and paranoid — which is natural considering the amount of scrutiny and criticism they receive — Scientology only reinforces their bubble.
Scientology is narcissistic out of proportion to other religions in that it not only emphasizes that all your engrams in this life are so important, but also everyone you were in past lives and traumas you experienced then, coupled with the characteristics of your millions of BTs…
In Scientology, you are not just one person, but you are are a village, a whole city unto yourself. Worse, Hubbard pits the individual against the suppression that surrounds a person, including supression within themselves like “misunderstanding,” or not applying the tech “properly.” But the easiest target, critics or information that is in any way critical of Scientology.
For Scilon actors, I think something that could crack through this wall, might be an event in their own community in Hollywood that creates discussion, like the Anderson movie, THE MASTER, with Phillip Seymour Hoffman. In having to discuss the differences between Hubbard and the character in this movie, some Scilon actors might be reading more things about the documented facts of Hubbard’s life.
Another thing that could work, is if Haggis, after learning more, decided to take a more active role in protesting.
Also, there’s a tipping point. Scientology is drying up. How low will new membership have to go before it can’t be hidden from celebrities, about their dwindling numbers. Members are going to start looking at David Miscavige first, but also consider the truth as told by “a flood” of former members, not a Marcabian invasion or some such Hubbard malarkey.
These are real people, that eventually even the pampered stars are going to start noticing. YOUTUBE gives these people the voice.
Here’s a good one I watched recently. So real. So compelling, about Neil, a Brit who just sort of stumbled into this cult and got trapped:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laEIpPjPWRg
(It is in 7 parts, this is Part 1/7)
Rofl! This has nothing to do with Co$? They were taking a really close look at these products on WWP and almost everything they looked at was one or another of the various versions of snake oil that LRH was hawking back in his dark day.
And besides, as her fellow $cilon Tom Cruise said: “You’re either in or your out.”
This alleged diet is nothing more than repackaged $cientology tech-rubbish, backed by a “reality tv” style informercial that was designed to turn Kristie Alley into a cash-cow (as opposed to the regular cow she currently is) for the sole benefit of the church.
Why else would A$E waste air time so the entire world could watch Kristie Alley lose weight (AGAIN!!!)?
Someone should get on Kristy’s twitter page and dare her to Watch Xenu T.V. and if she doesn’t wake up and smell the coffee cake then there truly is no hope for her. If she doesn’t have the “balls” to come here and refute us, then that proves all scilons can’t confront us S.P.s and that the “tech” is bull shit. I would like to debate a Scilon on religion and spirituality. I’d like to challenge any of them to a debate valor, freedom, and the Truth. This way I can show them that their moronic “tech” is a load of tripe. And as an added bonus they get to learn how asinine Scientology really is. I dare any Scientologist to come here and refute us and the truth.
If they have the guts to that is.
“Scientology: A History of Violence
CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 ° Series Explores the Church of Scientology’s LeadershipIn a special series beginning Monday, March 29th, CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360° takes a close and revealing look at the leadership of the worldwide church of Scientology. The week-long series, Scientology: A History of Violence, will examine allegations that Scientology leader David Miscavige has for years beaten, kicked and choked top members of the church. These are allegations the church aggressively denies, saying violence from inside came from those making the claim.
Anderson Cooper will speak with former, high ranking members from the Church’s inner circle, who says the David Miscavige not only carried out, but encouraged the culture of violence at the highest levels of the church management. Cooper will also speak with members who claim extreme hardships, and some say intimidation, the church imposes on anyone who decides to leave and speak out.
Scientology: A History of Violence will air at 10pm ET on CNN and will also air on CNNInternational. Anderson Cooper 360° airs weeknights on CNN at 10pm ET.”
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/scientology-history-violence-cnn-ac360-64347/
Scientology: A History of Violence
CNN March 29th 10:00pm ET